******UPDATE: Vote for your favorite nickname!
FROM THE UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS:
Second Marquette University News Briefs for May 11, 2005
Marquette Trustees announce new nickname selection process, reaffirm position not to reinstate Warriors nickname
Marquette’s Board of Trustees today unanimously reaffirmed its position not to reinstate the Warriors nickname and announced that it would establish a process for stakeholders to select the new Marquette athletics nickname. The Trustees made the decision after reviewing feedback received in the past week from students, alumni and fans expressing surprise and frustration that their voices were not adequately heard in the decision to change from Golden Eagles to Marquette Gold.
The Board of Trustees announced a new process by which a new athletics nickname will be chosen and also announced the formation of the Marquette Nickname Advisory Committee made up of representative students, alumni, faculty and staff. The process will include:
1. Within the next two weeks, a list of as many as 10 names will be presented to the Marquette community. All the names presented will be selected from the hundreds of names suggested by the Marquette community during either the 1994 or 2004 nickname processes. While the final list has not been decided, the list will certainly include some of the obvious names given Marquette’s athletics history, including Blue and Gold, Golden Avalanche, Hilltoppers and Golden Eagles.
There will also be a write-in option, presented with the parameters that votes for Warriors will not be counted, and that all write-in’s must be consistent with both our Jesuit, Catholic mission and the Board resolution on Native American imagery.
2. All members of the Marquette community, including students, alumni, faculty and staff, will be asked to choose two nicknames from the list, or can offer a write-in option.
3. The two options receiving the most support from the first vote will be presented to the Marquette community for a second vote. The nickname with the most support in the second vote will then be presented to the president to be announced as Marquette’s new athletics nickname going into the Big East Conference.
Both votes will be binding, and will be conducted on the Web with provisions made for those who do not have Internet access. Members of the Marquette community will be notified via mail and e-mail in the coming weeks about steps for participating in the voting process. More information about the voting process will also be available at http://marquette.edu/nickname.
The Marquette Nickname Advisory Committee will oversee the voting process and will advise the university in the development of the look of the new nickname, following its selection after the second vote.
Marquette has preliminarily planned that the timing for the nickname process will be as follows:
Week of May 23: List of nickname options will be presented to the Marquette community for the first vote. The Marquette community (students, alumni, faculty and staff) will choose two names from the list, or offer a write-in.
Mid-June: Second vote will be conducted with the top-two vote getters.
By July 1: The winning nickname will be announced.
Following the choice of a new nickname, Marquette will further engage the Marquette community, through focus groups and other forums, in the design of a visual identity for the new nickname, with a new logo to be chosen by the start of the school year. Students will be asked to give input on design and name the mascot (the costumed character appearing at games) in the fall.
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Fair to say that unless anyone has a connection to this university…Marquette’s name change(s) will not be discussed around too many water coolers across the country.
Although, I think it would be fair to say that Marquette may become nationally (if not already) “that school that keeps on changing their name”
im gonna throw this against the wall and see if it sticks. i like jumpin jesuits, but i think the jump part sounds a bit odd and would be hard to depict in a mascot. instead, what does everyone think of the “fightin’ jesuits” as a nickname? of course fightin would be in a peaceful, pc sort of fightin. like beating people on the basketball court or something. i think we gotta honor those righteous dudes that wear the collar somehow with our nickname
Vote for your favorite nickname!
Patrick-
I threw fightin jesuits in for you. We’ll see how it does
-Brandon Henak
Tim
“Once an American Indian is offended and voices their objection, and one keeps such a mascot, the offensiveness becomes intentional.”
I think this statement is what is going wrong with our country. Just because “you” are offended by “my” actions does not mean I am intentionally offending “you”.
As for your ideas of litigation, technically you are correct. But the Indian groups (and many others that use litigation for “social reform” or to force their agenda) that use litigation to change a name do not want too actually see inside a court room. Their goal is to cost the institution so much money that it is a better business decision to just change the name. While I disagree with folding, I do believe the BOT was fearful of a lawsuit and the money it would cost to defend it. As much as I want the warriors name back, a smart man once said ‚Äú You got to know when to fold them‚Äù!
You people who are debating alternate nicknames have a good future as RINO politicians; you’ll sell out your principles for the first price someone offers you. Stop patting yourselves on your back long enough to realize that this was never about Gold or Golden Eagles; it was always about Warriors. The liberals have beaten you again. Mark Belling and Prof. McAdams have much to teach you about having a spine.
No, just because you are offending someone does not mean you are doing so intentionally, but if someone told you you were offending them, to continue to do so after finding out is technically intentional, as apathy towards one can be constituted as intentional.
I don’t really recall saying American Indians used litigation to change it nor do they do so very often, if I recall correctly. I think the BoT was being proactive and sensitive to American Indians, not fearful of lawsuit. There is a difference.
The liberals have beaten you again.
Victimized again, huh Rudy?
Yeah rudy… that’s a little over the top, don’t you think? This isn’t a liberal/conservative issue… it’s a school mascot. Hell I was really fine with the golden eagles… it wasn’t THAT bad. The Gold was that bad. VICTORY!
But then… I guess I’m not even a RINO… I voted for Buchanan in 2000
This ISN’T a political issue? Could’ve fooled me. Why do you think they call it political correctness. This is about liberals imposing their worldview on the rest of us.
thanks brandon. nice job on gettin the poll goin.
so a pc move from ‘94 got out of the ground and struck again Rudy?
Does anyone know the meaning of Jumpin’ Jesuits…There’s a reason it won’t happen. It stems from a tale where a priest at Gesu, not being able to supposedly deal with issues of homosexuality, jumped out of a fifth floor window at Johnston Hall…I believe.
Yes, Tim. Why are your responses so juvenile? I ask a simple question: Were the CRs pro-Warrior or merely anti-Gold before this afternoon? You’re B.S.’ing me if you claim the latter. Then why do you accept this pyrrhic “victory.”
Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy that Gold is gone. And I appreciate the work that the CRs have done on this. But I thought that you were aiming for something more than merely getting rid of the latest stupid nickname. If you’re willing to sell out your principles so fast when your 20, you won’t have any left when you’re 30.
In all fairness, you’re not alone in settling for less. Students For Warriors (no mystery where they stand) is declaring victory too.
Hey! I know! How about the “Marquette Protest-Warriors”!
Strong, proud tradition there. Nothing to do with Indians, everything to do with chutzpah.
I’m being juvenile? You are the one making this into a giant con/lib debate when neither side sees it as that. But whatever, Rudy, if your principles lie in a nickname for a school, hold onto it tightly.
You weren’t asking a simple question, you were making a mountain out of a molehill, Rudy.
Rudy,
There is valiance and then there is banging your head against the wall. The Board has already made it clear we will not see Warriors, but that does not diminish this as a victory. Wednesday we were faced with a choice. Keep fighting for Warriors and be stuck with Gold, or unite and have the MU community choose. We took the latter, and any reasonable person would. Would I like to be Warriors? Hell yes. But it is not going to happen, plain and simple. So why fight a battle that is lost when we had the opportunity to get change accomplished? Sometimes we have to make concessions to get what we want, and that is what happened here.
Well, compromising is what Republicans do best, apparently.
Im telling you guys, the only way to go about this is to keep pressuring the university. We already have them on thier heals. We just have to give them that extra shove and they will fall over/cave in.
Why is it that Marquette only asked the Red Cliff Indian Tribe?? The Potowatomi have Publicly said on radio that they do not have a problem with the warrior name or image. The Red Cliff Indian Tribe is one of the smallest tribes in Wisconsin. Why not listen to the Largest ones since they make up the majority of Indians in Wisconsin? Also why not listen to the tribes in our back yard??? Red Cliff Tribe is way up by superior!!! they don’t even live by us.
Warriors Forever
Wow… I’ve never heard compromise used as an insult in quite that way before… Go read Jonah Goldberg today on conservatism. Specifically the part about how conservatives are more comfortable making trade-offs between potential options. It seems relevant here.
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....111449.asp
Very good points though Joe… by all means, keep up the fight. I didn’t care all that much pre-Gold, though, and I’m pretty happy with how this is working out.
While I will always hold the Warrior name close to my heart, the current board will never allow it no matter how hard we fight. However, Joe is right that the Board should have listened to a majority of Native Americans.
In 2002, Sports Illustrated released a study that found that over 80% of Native Americans are not offended by Indian or Warrior nicknames. However, it is the activists that “speak for the tribe” that are universally opposed to it. The Board has made the decision that the will of a minority is more important than the beliefs of the majority (be it Alumni, Student, or Native American)
However, given the Board’s unwillingness to compromise on this issue; it is essential that the Marquette community find a new name that they can rally around. Our campus has been divided for 11 years, now it is time that we work towards establishing a new tradition. A tradition that will hopefully approach that of the Warrior era, ideally as Hilltoppers or Golden Avalanche.
Here is a link to a National Review summary of SI’s article. (Unfortunately SI does not publish most of their magazine articles on the internet but I can probably get a full copy of the article if someone would like it.) http://www.nationalreview.com/daily/nr030802.shtml
I think you’ve been had by a crafty, scheming administration.